# A better iOS keyboard?
**URL:** https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752
**Category:** Feedback
**Tags:** feature-request
**Created:** [May 27, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752 "2024-05-27T13:42:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@willi136](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/willi136)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/1 "2024-05-27T13:42:36Z")
I really appreciate DTTG, except for one thing: it uses the default iOS keyboard. In particular, I would really like to have a “Tab” key right next to the regular keys. And arrow keys, too, for better cursor control when editing. I occasionally see better keyboards in other apps – Termius comes to mind, but I really miss those features in DTTG.
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### Author:  [@eboehnisch](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/eboehnisch)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/2 "2024-05-27T14:06:47Z")
DEVONthink To Go can use any third-party keyboard you install, so you can choose freely among the available options.
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### Author:  [@SlickSlack](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/SlickSlack)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/3 "2024-05-27T14:48:13Z")
If anyone knows of a keyboard with good cursor control lemme know.
Something with my brain/hand combo doesn’t play nicely with however the iOS boffins at Apple expect it to work. In DT and out.
As far as the OP’s request, it would almost require a specific KB for each document type. I could see a markdown keyboard that has a row of common use emphasis and other markdown schema as one button keys (the ones are already right at the top of the screen in pull-down menus).
The rtf and PDF editors would need their own kb I guess.
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### Author:  [@BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/BLUEFROG)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/4 "2024-05-27T15:35:40Z")
Maybe this…?
> **[Typefinity](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/typefinity/id1512009869)**
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> Typing without limits on iPad and iPhone. When it comes to on-screen keyboards, bigger IS different, and Typefinity is built to take advantage of the larger screen size on tablets and modern phones. Stay in the flow when it's time to type a number...
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 5:05am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/5 "2024-05-28T05:05:19Z")
> [@SlickSlack](#):
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> If anyone knows of a keyboard with good cursor control lemme know.
I just received one of these a couple days ago. It seemed intriguing as it reminded me of my days with a Palm Treo. I was convined iPhone would never be a success since it did not have a “real” keyboard like the Treo :-). I was a bit off the mark there.
Nonetheless I really like a physical keyboard for the feedback to help with typing speed. And it clears up screen real estate from the on-screen keyboard. The Clicks documentation also emphasizes the ability to use the Command key to create custom shortcuts.
So far much of that is true. However its biggest limitations appear to be a result of Apple security restrictions. There are some considerable limitations Apple places on external keyboards. For example, TextExpander on the Iphone will only activate an expansion if the last character of the trigger is pressed on the screen; it will not allow the external keyboard to trigger an expansion.
I have an inquiry into technical support to see if they know a way to activate the equivalent of arrow keys on this keyboard. So far I have tried a bunch of workarounds to no avail. If I hear better news from tech support I will let you know.
> **[Clicks Keyboard for iPhone](https://www.clicks.tech/)**
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> Maximize your iPhone experience with our premium physical keyboard. Type with ease and precision wherever you go, elevating your mobile productivity. Discover the perfect accessory to transform your iPhone into a powerhouse of efficiency.
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### Author:  [@chrillek](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/chrillek)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/6 "2024-05-28T06:50:31Z")
Intriguing. Unfortunately, they say nothing about „accented“ characters like German umlauts. Do you know if those are accessible with a long press like with the virtual keyboard?
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 7:28am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/7 "2024-05-28T07:28:32Z")
The long press does not work from the physical Clicks keyboard. However if under Settings-Keyboard-Hardware I add the German keyboard then I can create the specialized German characters by pressing the 123 key on the Clicks keyboard along with another key on the keyboard.
So it is doable but will likely require a change in muscle memory to what you are used to using.
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### Author:  [@chrillek](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/chrillek)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/8 "2024-05-28T08:15:06Z")
Thanks. Seems that they got it mostly right, except for ß vs. ss
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/9 "2024-05-28T11:46:09Z")
> [@chrillek](#):
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> except for ß vs. ss
There are a few different German keyboards - and I did not exhaustively test every possible special character it can generate.
So while we know it can generate ss, I am not certain that means ß is unsupported
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/10 "2024-05-28T11:55:19Z")
OK - As I am sure you know, iOS has Gerrman keyboards for Germany, Austria, and Switzerland.
Using the Germany version, I can create ß vs. ss by turning Capitalization on vs off.
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### Author:  [@chrillek](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/chrillek)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/11 "2024-05-28T12:01:55Z")
And the Swiss don’t have that letter, so it makes perfect sense.
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/12 "2024-05-29T13:19:43Z")
@chrillek
There was a firmware update to the keyboard
Now it works just as you initially hoped it would
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### Author:  [@chrillek](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/chrillek)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/13 "2024-05-29T13:59:42Z")
👍
Cool thing. I’ll probably get myself such a thing with the next iPhone.
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/14 "2024-06-03T13:14:16Z")
> [@SlickSlack](#):
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> If anyone knows of a keyboard with good cursor control lemme know.
@SlickSlack
@chrillek
This article explains many additional customization features of the Clicks keyboard - it is quite dense in info but solid gold.
Most notably - if you set the Globe to be the “Control” key then Ctrl-B and Ctrl-F move forward or back one letter in a document. There is no way to go up or down with the keyboard but you can touch the screen to get to the line you want to edit; then Ctrl-B and Ctrl-F let you move one character at a time on that line.
Yes, it works in DTTG.
> **[Exclusive: Give your iPhone 36 More Action Buttons with the Clicks Keyboard](https://crackberry.com/how-create-custom-shortcuts-your-iphone-clicks-keyboard)**
>
> In this tutorial we'll show you how to effectively turn the 36 buttons on your Clicks Keyboard for iPhone into shortcuts and commands that allow you to next level how you use your iPhone.
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### Author:  [@rkaplan](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/rkaplan)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/15 "2024-06-07T00:12:50Z")
> [@SlickSlack](#):
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> If anyone knows of a keyboard with good cursor control lemme know.
Just saw this today on Product Hunt. Says it works on Mac, iPHone, and iPad. Intriguing.
[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mokibo-/mokibo-fusion-keyboard-2-0-keyboard-touchpad-stand-cover?ref=producthunt](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mokibo-/mokibo-fusion-keyboard-2-0-keyboard-touchpad-stand-cover?ref=producthunt)
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### Author:  [@davidrobertparker](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/davidrobertparker)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/16 "2024-06-20T01:59:46Z")
On the iOS keyboard the space bar operates as a cursor key. Just press and hold and move your finger about to move the cursor. It takes a bit of practice and dexterity to make it work but saves a lot of frustration.
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### Author:  [@BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/BLUEFROG)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/a-better-ios-keyboard/79752/17 "2024-06-20T02:07:07Z")
> [@davidrobertparker](#):
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> It takes a bit of practice and dexterity to make it work but saves a lot of frustration.
That is true but it often still leads to frustration for me 🙂