# Annotations disappear

**URL:** https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935
**Category:** Tips
**Created:** [September 26, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935 "2017-09-26T07:40:08Z")
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### Author: ![wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/wannabedevonian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/1 "2017-09-26T07:40:08Z")

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Hi, I use the pen in DTTG and the circle on DTPO to mark transactions on a PDF. My problem is that when I convert a PDF from PDF to PDF+text the mark-ups disappear.

Occasionally I reimport an existing PDF+text into DTPO (say to change the name using Hazel) and again when doing so the mark-ups disappear.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Also is there a way to ensure when printing to PDF, the PDF created is PDF+text and not just a PDF?

Thank you all  
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### Author: ![cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/cgrunenberg/32/7172_2.png) [@cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/cgrunenberg)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/2 "2017-09-26T08:33:26Z")

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OCR doesn’t retain annotations yet, this is a known shortcoming and a future release will improve this. Therefore it’s recommended to OCR the documents first and to annotate them afterwards.

How did you import the existing PDF+text documents? Importing via drag & drop or via File \> Import \> Files & Folders… shouldn’t modify files at all.

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### Author: ![wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/wannabedevonian)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2017, 6:34am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/3 "2017-09-27T06:34:32Z")

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Do you mean that a graphic, say a dot or stroke, made with the pen tool in DTTG doesn’t get saved in OCR but will in a future release? I thought only words get saved in OCR?

It is these graphics that are disappearing.

The importation that creates a PDF without OCR is via the Print dialog | save PDF to DT. It would be great if that action created a PDF+text document instead.

Thanks

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### Author: ![cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/cgrunenberg/32/7172_2.png) [@cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/cgrunenberg)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2017, 8:15am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/4 "2017-09-27T08:15:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Do you mean that a graphic, say a dot or stroke, made with the pen tool in DTTG doesn’t get saved in OCR but will in a future release? I thought only words get saved in OCR? It is these graphics that are disappearing.

That’s right. The OCR engine basically rebuilds the complete PDF document and annotations (notes, text, lines, ovals, rects etc.) aren’t retained yet.

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> The importation that creates a PDF without OCR is via the Print dialog | save PDF to DT. It would be great if that action created a PDF+text document instead.

A printed PDF document usually doesn’t require OCR as it’s already searchable (as long as you don’t print images/scans of course)

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### Author: ![wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@wannabedevonian](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/wannabedevonian)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/5 "2017-09-27T08:47:42Z")

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Thanks for clarifying on the OCR engine.

The Print | Save PDF to DTPro function on macOS will print any type of document, so yes it’s often non-PDFs being imported as a PDF in DT - and they do not have the text OCR’d.

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### Author: ![cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/cgrunenberg/32/7172_2.png) [@cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/cgrunenberg)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/annotations-disappear/22935/6 "2017-09-27T11:21:50Z")

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> [@wannabedevonian](#):
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> Thanks for clarifying on the OCR engine.

so yes it’s often non-PDFs being imported as a PDF in DT - and they do not have the text OCR’d.  
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What kind of documents do you print? Usually the text is searchable, OCR is usually only required for images/scans.
