# DT3 - sidebar order

**URL:** <https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055>\
**Category:** DEVONthink\
**Created:** [September 16, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055 "2019-09-16T10:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/mog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/1 "2019-09-16T10:53:17Z")

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In my database, I keep all items in the database inbox (having renamed it the same name as the database). I have numerous groups and smart groups. Some of the smart groups are not associated with any particular group. What I’d like to know please is how in the side. bar I can sort those smart groups so that they are at the top of the list of groups.

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**Author:** ![cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/cgrunenberg/32/7172_2.png) [@cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/cgrunenberg)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/2 "2019-09-16T10:54:58Z")

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You can sort global smart groups/rules via drag & drop. To sort items of databases (including smart groups), you have to switch to unsorted sorting (see contextual menu).

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**Author:** ![mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/mog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/3 "2019-09-16T11:07:48Z")

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I cannot get what you have said to work. Before posting, I had tried drag and drop on unsorted but the smart groups bounced back.

Instead, I have created a new group ‘0-000’ which sorts to the top of the list on the sidebar and I have moved the smart groups to that group.

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**Author:** ![cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/cgrunenberg/32/7172_2.png) [@cgrunenberg](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/cgrunenberg)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/4 "2019-09-16T11:12:48Z")

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A screenshot plus a description what exactly has been dropped where would be useful.

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**Author:** ![mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@mog](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/mog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/5 "2019-09-16T11:16:09Z")

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Creating a screenshot that omits sensitive information isn’t possible. I am content with my work-around, thank you anyway.

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**Author:** ![BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/bluefrog/32/135_2.png) [@BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/BLUEFROG)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/6 "2019-09-16T14:50:24Z")

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> Creating a screenshot that omits sensitive information isn’t possible.

You could try [Monosnap](https://monosnap.com/) as it has a blur tool.

 ![DEVONtech_Support%20%E2%80%94%20%22DT3%20-%20sidebar%20order%20-%20DEVONthink%20-%20DEVONtechnologies%20Community%22%202019-09-16%2010-49-59](https://devontech-discourse.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/2X/6/603da696ef4312e6ba5e0f569e651956c28452d2.png)

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**Author:** ![Andreas76](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Andreas76](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/Andreas76)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/7 "2019-09-23T16:18:59Z")

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> [@Andreas76](#):
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> Does it mean there is not way to sort the folders in the sidebar ?  
> This is really worse as I have added a bunch of indexed folders and expected them to be sorted alphabetically.  
> Now I need to do that in the main window but this is not possible when having the option “show only files” is turned off.

Solved: Just found it on the context menu on the database item (I expected the option to be everywhere in the folder structure levels). This needs a lot of scrolling to find the options and by activating everything looks kind of different.  
This handling is confusing and was more clear with 3pane view.

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**Author:** ![BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/bluefrog/32/135_2.png) [@BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/BLUEFROG)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/8 "2019-09-23T16:27:58Z")

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See this…

> [@Unsorted entries in main window vs. sidebar](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/unsorted-entries-in-main-window-vs-sidebar/50269):
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> I have unsorted checked, but in the View-\>Sort menu (or in the dropdown) it also shows “Ascending” checked at the same time. In the main window, it has my preferred sorting, but in the sidebar the same folders are sorted differently, using Ascending (it won’t let me drag to reposition folders) (just upgraded to DT3)

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**Author:** ![Andreas76](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Andreas76](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/Andreas76)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/9 "2019-09-23T16:38:04Z")

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Thanx Jim 😀  
… and sorry for me messing up the thread order… you have been replying faster than my last edit.

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**Author:** ![BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/user_avatar/discourse.devontechnologies.com/bluefrog/32/135_2.png) [@BLUEFROG](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/u/BLUEFROG)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/dt3-sidebar-order/50055/10 "2019-09-23T16:45:59Z")

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No worries 😛😊