Thanks for the feedback, Steven P. Jobs
no problem. it’s always nice to take a few moments out of my busy Pixar schedule. since you invited me to the forums here, i thought i’d go into depth on my suggestions, and tell you to keep up the good work, Christian. implement everything correctly, and i’ll send you 25 XServes.
An option to “browse in place” will be added to version 1.9 and the possibility to customize fonts to a future release (can’t be more specific because this has a very low priority at the moment).
"Browse in Place" certainly would answer one of my suggestions.
My two cents are that you should place a higher priority on simple interface customization like font sizes.
One of the compelling and unique features of DT to me is the HTML rendering. But the font size specified in most web pages tends to be MUCH larger than I like. So I’m forced to “Open Externally” DT web pages in Safari, which defeats much of appeal for me on viewing inline in notepad view.
I would think something like this would be so trivial to implement compared to the amount it would enhance the user experience for DT users that it would be a no-brainer. But that’s just my two cents.
Likewise, making the font size in the font list be customizable seems almost comically trivial to implement, but would greatly improve the experience for many of your customers. My eyes can handle 10pt text, so I’d be able to see MANY more entries in the right pane of the notepad view. Most other (even very primitive) notebook apps have such such a preference.
The Dock menu on the other hand provides commands requested by users. However, the next release (1.8.2) will further decrease the need to use this menu as there will be a floating panel (e.g. usable as a drag & drop destination).
This is a pretty low item on my list of complaints (I mean suggestions…). Just in keeping with some basic UI theory, stuff in the dock menu should be reserved for operation that don’t require bringing the app frontmost. Look at iOrganize for an absolutely perfect and streamlined dock icon menu.
If I want to do something that requires bringing DT to the front, the dock icon menu seems a rather inelegant way to do that.
And maybe the odd bottom “toolbar” will be collapsable in the future (as some users even want an extended “toolbar” for example - it’s difficult to fulfill all requests). Likely in version 1.9 too.
I keep returning to the concept of why I should HAVE to stare at an interface element I don’t want to look at. I’m guessing I’m not the only one who’d prefer a more iOrganize-style simplicity of interface, where I’m looking at my entry titles on the left, and my entry contents on the right, with no extraneous elements to distract me.
More generally, a UI should be very obtrusive for newbies, to show them the app’s functions and power. But then as they become more proficient with the app, all that UI busyness should be able to be dismissed, leaving the user alone with his data, and no distractions.
And again, I’d imagine that implementation of a show/hide status bar pref would be quite trivial.
[b]Finally, we think that the price is right - if you’re using it as an information manager, then DT is actually quite cheap but if you’re using it as a notepad, then it might be expensive and DEVONnote would be a better alternative.
Just curious - why should DEVONnote be cheaper than iOrganize although it provides more power and features?[/b]
i almost wish i’d avoided the pricing issue in the first place. a correct pricing structure is what brings in the greatest revenue for your company. If it were my company, (and it ain’t) i’d kill DN, sell DT at $25 to compete with iOrganize/Alepin/MonkeyPad, etc, etc. And I’d sell DT Pro at $100 for the folks for whom it’s cheap at any price.
But I have no dog in that fight.
One further note for you. With all props I give to you for the work you’ve done on DT, I respectfully suggest you could learn some interface usability from the humble iOrganize. As you’re well aware, the import/export is atrocious. And while the search works, it’s not as nice as the DT search. But the dock icon menu is more usable. The favorites drawer is quite handy. And The ability to view my data in a window customized to my needs and wants counts for a lot for many users. I can set the entry list font size to determine how many entries to see vertically. Not even to mention how much speedier iOrganize can load an RTF or TXT for viewing.
Interface should be extensive and overgrown for new users. But eventually power users want to drawback the interface and be faced with a spare view of their data without extraneous distractions. iOrganize does this perfectly. Alepin is also a champ at this, despite lacking a search and a dock icon menu.
In DT, I often feel like I’m fighting the interface, and I don’t think that’s merely a learning curve issue at this point.
At the end of the day, the more comfortable I’d be spending lots of time in DT to write and read, with an interface I don’t even have to think about, the happier I’d be with the app, and the more likely I’d be (and others like me, I’d guess) to throw over the Alepins and ScrapitPros and iOrganizes.
Don’t forget that many folks end up on the Mac platform specifially because they value interface over power.