I will solemnly shut up - I wouldn’t dare contradict your grandmother 
thanks for your cordial posts 
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Any indication of release date yet? I’m willing to subscribe if it keeps DTTG sustainable, although I prefer to keep subs to a bare minimum. Some of the comments about the current version of DTTG in the forum are a bit severe but I welcome an update. (I think) I can see where it’s going for the Desktop version too. I hope devontech find a balance that works for customers and themselves.
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Quoting DEVONtechnologies | Christmas Updates which says:
While we have an internal release date for DEVONthink To Go 3 we don’t publish it yet as there might be unforeseen delays caused, e.g., by factors out of our control.
We are not releasing it before the Christmas holidays, though, as we want to be available for customer support when we put it into your hands.
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I am getting tired of this topic. It’s not something I want to worry about right now. Nevertheless, I have some thoughts to inflict upon you.
There are two—no three—licensing models that I see:
- One-time payment with free updates (until a really significant advance warrants you buying a new “version”)—Admittedly, Apple does not make update pricing easy…but you should take that up with them
- The subscription model: you continue to pay and receive ALL updates for as long as you want to
- Something absurd and hated by all
The first is like a pyramid scheme, if the developer can continue to attract new users at a rate that funds continued development of the app, then they’re golden. But if not then there’s no further development. You can try for the “this next release is SO much better that you’ll want to buy it again!” approach. But again, Apple doesn’t make that easy for developers, it’s a crap shoot.
The second subscription model demands continual development and improvement to meet the expectations of the subscribers. And that may not always even be possible, leading to attrition and eventual decay.
So actually, ALL roads lead to decay. The question is which will bring the most customer value==developer revenue.
∴ Let’s relax, sit back, and see what happens while we enjoy having DEVONthink
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Thanks for pointing this out. I managed to miss these small prints in the blog post. I would bet realistically nothing is changing after all the feedbacks in the previous thread.
Though critical of slow fixes on DTTG compared to DEVONthink, I’ll settle for today’s 2.7.8 update. At least it fixes some of those nagging bugs 
Well… you’d like to think so, but if you look at, for example, TextExpander, they have done almost nothing with the app since it went subscription something like 4 years ago.
I wonder how many people there keep paying because they have the sunk cost of everything being in TextExpander already.
On the other hand, PDFpen has a new, paid update every year and has a bunch of features to justify a new update every year, or you can keep using the version that you have for a few years.
And TextExpander isn’t in the Mac App Store so that excuse doesn’t apply, although it clearly does for DTTG.
From all I’ve heard from people using the DTTG beta, they keep hinting that it’s a substantial release with improvements worth waiting for. So I look forward to seeing what the foundation is and what the annual price is.
I’m just leaving my comment here to make a statement: I do not like subscription models, especially for apps I invested quite a lot already. Please DON’T go down the that road, Devontechnologies. I use DEVONthink because with DTTG I have my documents with me in my pocket. With a DTTG subscription app, that would mean good bye to DEVONthink as well. Just my two cents.
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Just my .02, and maybe others have already mentioned, but it seems 2.7.8 might be kept around for those of us with older devices that run iOS 11 and 12 while those with newer devices and a more current iOS can subscribe to version 3.
Like reading the comments lol
I wish ppl come up with a system that satisfies the majority.
We all use DT for different reasons.
We all have different budge to spend.
The dev of better touch tool, I like his approach of pracing, So is DT too, the way it is right now personally i think it is fair.
If either of them were American companies, man we would have been in a sub based payment long ago. Why do I find Americans companies to be so greedy.
DT
BTT
Things
Excellent apps, guess what do they have in common? Besides being awesome apps
@Blanc has an excellent point about keeping the discussion focussed. It’s been common since the dawn of the Internet to do a cursory search on a forum about the subject one wants to post about before adding a new thread. Otherwise, resentment flares up again, just like it’s doing now in this thread, about matters that have already been talked about to death, about which there is no further information yet, and about which we already have a current official statement.
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Technically speaking, DEVONtechnologies IS an American company!
I’ll add my two cents here as well. I certainly don’t use DTTG enough to justify a subscription so I do not expect to upgrade if that is what the decision ends up being. However, I agree with the sentiments expressed here that I would be willing to make a one time purchase.
If it does go to a subscription model I will seriously have to consider moving on from DT entirely though.
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I am fine with a subsription model, provided the following is true:
- DTTG is no longer “To Go” But rather a feature-complete DevonThink for iOS/iPadOS
- Background sync is available.
- DevonTechnologies uses the improved cashflow to hire more developers.
- DevonThink subscripttion for iOS/iPadOS has family sharing enabled without a fee.
- Improved Apple Pencil integration (give me great tools for creating handwritten notes on custom templates, similar to GoodNotes).
- iCloud Drive integration. (Let me index files within iCloud Drive across ALL versions of DevonThink)
- Shortcuts integration.
Under these conditions, I feel comfortable paying a monthly fee. It would give me a way to share databases with my family across our iOS devices, without having to resort to setting up a server. This is a big deal to me. Background sync would instantly be a massive boon to my workflow. I’d be able to replace a LOT of apps. I’d be able to automate a lot of functions.
If this is where DT for iOS/iPadOS is heading, then a reasonable monthly fee is fine by me.
Maybe DevonThink could get some ideas for their future pricing.
Not saying the same price, obviously DevonThink is worth more but something that will satisfy all users.
- Feature parity with DEVONthink on the Mac is not possible in the current state of iOS hardware and resource requirements.
- This is not under our control. It is controlled by iOS.
- Operational decisions like this are not for public discussion.
- There is no word on any of our pricing, family sharing or not.
- We’ll see what the future brings.
- Indexing is not supported in DEVONthink To Go.
- Ditto #5.
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- I understand, and I’m not looking for perfection but rather a move in that direction. At the very least, greater similarity between the UI, particularly on iPad Pro.
- I understand that backgroud sync cannot work as you currently have DT set up. But background sync is available in other applications that have their own sync service. My hope was that perhaps you’d roll your own sync service for which I’d be willing to pay monthly, as I understand that this incurs a recurring cost for you.
- That’s fine. I’m not asking for your company to divulge these operational details, I’m merely expressing a hope.
- I know there’s no word yet on pricing or family sharing, again I’m just expressing a desire.
- Yeah, today it is not. But I was quite hopeful that there might be plans to make indexing possible if the folders in question live within iCloud Drive. Again, another one for the wishlist.
What a remarkably strange comment. My grandmother never worked as an Über driver in her life. Does that say anything about the gig economy, and her moral stance toward it? Or is it perhaps the case that working as an Über driver wasn’t an option ever available to my grandmother?
I am, of course, making the assumption that your profile photograph is of yourself, and the person in that photograph looks to be older than my father. Which would almost certainly make your grandmother older than my own, who is now dead. But I could certainly be mistaken, and your grandmother could be my age, very much alive, and deliberately avoiding software subscriptions.
I think we should just accept that subscription is a reality now. Just like mortgages, utilities, school fees. We can fight it ad nauseam but it’s futile imo. They are making a business decision and may offer interim transition options. I’ve been through much worse when developers changed their business models, and thankfully that is not the case here.
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