Using "Rename to Chat suggestion" gives my file a German Name

davidleitner · August 29, 2025, 2:54pm

Hi folks! Not that I have anything against German, but when I use the “Rename to Chat suggestion,” it changes the filename to German. Can I set this to only give results in English?

BLUEFROG · August 29, 2025, 3:06pm

You need to provide more information for us to assess.

What version of DEVONthink?
What OS?
What AI provider and model?
What is the language of the document you’re renaming?

davidleitner · August 30, 2025, 2:49am

Definitely!

What version of DEVONthink?

Devonthink 4.02

What OS?
Sequoia 15.6.1

What AI provider and model?
ChatGPT 4.1 Nano

What is the language of the document you’re renaming?

English

cgrunenberg · August 30, 2025, 7:57am

Neither the default prompt nor DEVONthink specify a language in this case. You could revise the prompt and explicitly mention the desired language.

avinyard · September 9, 2025, 3:24pm

I’m experiencing the same issue. In Settings > AI > Summarization I’ve set to English. Even added to the custom prompt “Any returned content shall be in English.” I don’t find any other place I can hint at this. Getting all kinds of returned languages when the source OCR content is clearly English.

cgrunenberg · September 9, 2025, 3:25pm

These settings control only summarizing, e.g. via Edit > Summarize via Chat… or Tools > Summarize Documents via Chat….

The Rename to Chat suggestion batch processing configuration (see Tools > Batch Processing…) demonstrates how to use your own prompt instead of the placeholder which is used by the smart rule.

davidleitner · September 22, 2025, 1:04pm

I will try that… thank you!

avinyard · September 29, 2025, 4:07pm

Is there a way to make a Batch Process run automatically on a condition like you can with a Smart Rule?

I have an incoming scans smart rule that automatically runs updating multiple items, but they are all almost guaranteed to be in a non-English language when results are returned, though the source documents are all English. Appears I need to rebuild all of this in Batch Processing with custom prompts simply to state “return results in English” but desire the automatic processing.

cgrunenberg · September 29, 2025, 4:14pm

You could convert these documents to plain text to check the quality of the PDF’s text layer. Maybe there are lots of OCR issues or uncommon words?

Smart rules support the Chat - Query action of course too.

BLUEFROG · September 29, 2025, 5:06pm

Batch processing is built for user-interaction, e.g., processing selected items, not unintended background handling.