Thanks. That is very much appreciated.
PDF Expert does have very good annotation tools, especially for highlighting, but as you point out comes with a heavy cost. I shall have another look at Goodreader as it has been several years since I last looked. My recollection is that it had a shocking GUI.
Does it not annoy you that every time you make a highlight in a PDF in GoodReader it asks you if you want to save the highlight? Thatās what was happening when I tested it at the weekend. No other app I tested does that, and since I might be highlighting a lot I donāt want to save every individual change I make, which meant I didnāt look any further at the app.
[Other apps just automatically save highlights as you go, and you can delete the highlight if you made it in error.]
GoodReader does not do that for me. To be fair, I use it so much I am used itās small issues, like the many in DevonThink, the good far outweigh the bad. Used MarginNote for years without complaint cause it did exactly what I needed it to do despite its awful UI.
Maybe itās my 30 years as a UX researcher (retired) and Iām so used to truly abysmal UIs that anything which seamlessly serves a purpose in my workflow is forgiven much.
Edit: I believe it does save as I go but I close the document out of habit because itās good to do that anyway.
I can delete and edit the highlights to my joy. PS: I tested if it requires a save, and it does not. Itās not fit for every user and what works for me may not work for your workflow.
I also change tools, like most of us do, as needs change. While DevonThink and GoodReader have been with me for years, my workflow used to use MarginNote, not any more as it flattens (or doesnāt flatten) the PDFs on export and doesnāt support the smooth flow that GoodReader does.
Another GoodReader for workflows fan here.Iāve probably thousands of pages of technical standards in it, and I never found a better tool for the job.
The app does ask if you want to save an annotated copy or annotate the original the first time you annotate, and for a document review workflow, this is a feature, since you donāt want to touch the original.
To be honest, Iād never really noticed that you need to hit save after annotating. I rarely get an annotation correct on the first go, so being able to adjust e.g. a highlight is a plus for me, but I can see the flip side of that.
Finally, GoodReaderās best workflow feature for me was the ability to generate a text list of all the annotations and comments from the review, and send that list with the annotated copy of the file to the editors to use when they go back to edit the original.
IMO the only thing that would improve this from a DT / DDTG workflow perspective would be if GoodReader could save the text annotation list to a file (instead of email).
Iāve been having a problem where the file I open in an external PDF viewer isnāt having highlights synced back to DTTG. Iāve been using PDF Expert and I know it was working when I tested the workflow because I commented about it in this thread!
Does anyone know what Iām doing wrong? What I do is download the file in DTTG (I use download on demand), then click the sharesheet and choose the PDF Expert app icon. Iāve not been clicking the āsave to PDF Expertā button.
Currently after highlighting Iām having to export the edited PDF back to DTTG, but I thought I didnāt have to do that 
Am I missing a step somewhere?
P.S. I just read a whole book in PDF Expert, Iām not sure its comfortable reading experience can be matched by any of the apps I tested. One of the key functions I ended up loving is that vertical scrolling just stops where you want it (even across two pages), so you can move footnotes to the middle of the screen to read them. A random feature I didnāt know I wanted until I had it!
We have been in contact with Readdle and we both have made some changes that should alleviate this issue. But bear in mind seeing the changes made isnāt immediate. And itās best to:
One of the key functions I ended up loving is that vertical scrolling just stops where you want it (even across two pages), so you can move footnotes to the middle of the screen to read them.
Maybe Iām misunderstanding but DEVONthink To Go has had this feature available since version 3 came out. The Settings > PDF Settings > Continuous switch allows you to scroll and stop anywhere in the documentā¦
Itās even supported in horizontal scrolling :Dā¦
When you say ānot immediateā, can you give me an indication of time frame? (I wonāt hold you to it!) Whilst I am not a tech person and probably wonāt understand what you say, can you explain the mechanics a little so that I understand what Iām doing and waiting for? E.g. Does PDF Expert or DTTG need to sync over the internet or something before edits show up, or does PDF Expert have to talk to DTTG and it needs a little time because they speak different languages or something? Are edits saved incrementally or does it all happen in one go when I close the PDF?
I did wonder whether my latest PDF didnāt sync back because it was a book, and I read it in two sittings. When I went back to it the second time, I reopened it directly in PDF Expert because the previous sessionās edits hadnāt synced back to DTTG. So perhaps I made the problem worse? And perhaps it was too big a file to sync between the two apps?
(Iām not unhappy with the apps by the way. I donāt expect different apps by different companies to play nicely together, and youāre being very obliging by ensuring that they do!)
I saw a change within about 30 seconds and no, itās not passing through the cloud. There isnāt an explicit Save button so itās likely the interval of an autosave in the background. But yes, navigating away from the document would initiate a save. Thatās the method I personally suggest, but YMMV.
Just enabled this, itās exactly what I meant, thank you! Didnāt know thatās itās called ācontinuous scrollā, itās a great invention!
Hmm Iām not seeing the same thing, itās saving the edited PDF to āInboxā in PDF Expert and nothing is syncing back to DTTG. Iām guessing this is an issue with PDF Expert, not DTTG, so I might need to speak to them instead.
Stay tuned as we are hard at work on the next maintenance release.
