Bullets Formatting Not Showing

DEVONthink
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The bulleted list hierarchy in many of my .rtf files is not showing. Can this be reversed?

It would look something like this:

  • item 1
    • item 1.1
    • item 1.2

Now it looks like this:

item 1

item 1.1

item 1.2

Only single-spaced, not double-spaced as above.

RTF formatting reverting or disappearing upon save
2

This is a known issue on macOS Tahoe and development is aware of it. Note it’s only cosmetic so the list is still intact, it’s just not visible. So don’t start trying to indent it again or you’ll adversely affect the list structure.

3

Thank you. I won’t touch them.

4

We just filed a bug report (including a super simple demo) to Apple as it’s definitely an issue of Tahoe when using the macOS 26 SDK which is required for Liquid Glass in DEVONthink 4.2. That’s why neither DEVONthink 3.9.17 nor former 4.x releases are affected.

Therefore one option would be to edit them externally (e.g. using TextEdit.app) or to downgrade to DEVONthink 4.1.1 or 3.9.17.

5

Thanks for filing the report. I hope they fix it. The files are too many for me to edit manually. I will wait it out.

6

This is an annoying bug for RTF/RTFD:
If one switches to producing markdown files instead of RTF, which features are lost compared to RTF (excluding formatting)? Is this documented somewhere?

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I doubt that there’s a feature comparison between MD and RTF. First of all because there are different MD dialects. Second, because MD is a markup language, ie it’s separating content and representation. RTF does not. Third, because the concept of “feature” is not clearly defined.

MD is widely available and a de-facto standard (with several possibly deviating dialects). It can be written and read with even the most basic text editor. RTF, although a clear text format, is useless without a dedicated editor. OTOH, MD was developed to ease HTML production. It was never intended to be a WYSIWYG format. Which frustrates many people not aware of this history. If you’re keen on including (as opposed to referencing) images and the like, you’re better off with something like Pages, Word or so. Or RTF/D, if Apple bothers to fix it.

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Hi, I am not interested in an MD vs RTF feature comparison, but in the differences in how DEVONthink handles the file formats in terms of annotation, metadata, linking, wiki linking, internal AI, and searching. etc. etc.
I’m using Claude AI, which is more comfortable using MD than RTF.
And any Apple bug can ta a very long time to fix.

9

I also have problems with Markdown conversion. From RTF files, bullet lists are not preserved in the Markdown file.

11

Thank you that’s very helpful. I appreciate the diagnosis and knowing it’s not me :smiley: .

12

I found and downloaded 4.1.1, installed it, and the fix is instantaneous. Thanks!

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The upcoming version 4.2.1 will fix this issue.