When importing web pages or other documents with the Safari clipper or the sorter, I don’t find a way to tag it on the fly with nested tags.
Let’s say I would like to tag a document or URL : Transportation / Roads / Highway (existing nested tags)
If I type ‘Highway’ in the sorter, it’s tagged with ‘Highway’, the rest of the existing tags hierarchy is ignored/dropped. Which is pointless when one do use nested tags.
In fact I would like tagging when importing to work the same way that the groups / subgroups hierarchy, that is the sorter to be aware of the hierarchy, proposing me “Transportation / Roads / Highway”
Thanks, understood, seems to work now.
But I have an issue then : many of my tags (type/classifications of documents for example, or geolocation) are kind of ‘transversal’ to different Databases/Subjects.
I don’t see a way to share some tags at the root level, in order to use them in different databases.
Is there a way to do that ?
Ok I get it, I suppose I could copy paste a complete hierarchy of nested tags to another database, without copying the tagged documents ? I’ll investigate that.
You suggest user metadata instead, is it the same that custom metadata ?
Do you suggest keywords for example ? I’ve not yet explored the Manuel and other documentations to understand the difference.
Will they work with all types of documents (pdf, web links..) ? Because I see that I’m not always allowed to write in some fields of the info panel, I don’t understand the cause, still a mystery for me.
Suggest for what? Of course, you can use keywords to represent tags, but I was more thinking like “Geolocation – what does that do in tags, if there already is a location data field?”
Why wouldn’t they?
Because eg PDF metadata like publisher etc. exist only for PDFs.
Apart from that: I suggest that you dive into the manual an perhaps experiment. It’s easy to create a test database, where you can put copies of some documents and then play around with them. That way, you see what happens when which in my experience is more helpful than theoreticizing about possible use cases etc.
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Thanks for your detailed answer !
Suggest for what? Of course, you can use keywords to represent tags, but I was more thinking like “Geolocation – what does that do in tags, if there already is a location data field?”
Because the geolocation seems to try to convert any location input to a city/address, like a postal or administrative address, in some cases very different from the real location.
For Instance, I tried to enter the name of an island (Belle-île en Mer). it’s the largest island in Britanny. DT converted the name of the island to the name of the nearest big town on the continent (Lorient). A different area than the one I entered.
I understand that DT needs the name of a city instead, and i’t’s not always pertinent or possible.
The Zip Code didn’t help me either, two examples :
Belle-île en Mer (again) : 4 communes (cities) there, with the same Zip Code, 56360. Meaning that 56360 is in fact the Zip code for the whole island. When I enter 56360 in the geolocation field, the result picks up only one of the 4 cities (Le Palais). Only a portion of the area I entered.
Take Paris now : more than 2 million people, 105 square kilometres, divided in 20 administrative ‘arrondissements’ (don’t know how it translates in English), each with its zip code (and a Mayor), from 75001 to 75020. Typing 75008 will return “Paris, Île-de-France, France” instead of the initial ‘arrondissement’. These Zip codes are the official Post Office ones, needed for any letter. A circa twenty times larger area than the precise and correct one I entered.
So, in these cases, I get either
an incorrect information (city on the continent instead of the name of the island)
a truncated information (one of four cities of the area, probably the biggest or most populated)
a too broader information (the whole France capital area instead of an administrative ‘arrondissement’)
In conclusion, I see it as more as an address field than a geolocation field.
Sorry for this long exposé explaining why I can’t rely on this ‘geolocation’ field, but you took time to answer to me and I didn’t want to answer to you too vaguely.
In addition (or instead) of this address based field -which I can’t really use, but is probably useful in many cases-, I would rather appreciate GPS coordinates fields (like in Airtable, Obsidian, Omifocus..) + a map to display my records.
Maybe someday a kind of Leaflet implementation in DT ? #FeatureRequest
Well, it may work in Apple Maps, but in DT it doesn’t work on my side (see the attached screen capture, I clipped the URL of the discussion).
Like, on the reverse, you may remember the import in Notes of the drag’n drop of a YouTube URL, which has been working perfectly for years on all my Macs, and doesn’t on yours ?
