DEVONthink Mail plugin under macOS Sonoma

https://jmap.io

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Thanks for enlightening me! Are there any servers/clients besides Fastmail using that?

Hi chrillek, no I wasnā€™t trying to be ironic. Not today at least. :grinning:

My understanding is that IMAP, whilst well established, has its own issues hence why Fastmail created JMAP. I canā€™t speak to its uptake but I believe itā€™s gaining traction.

I donā€™t know anything about it, frankly. My contribution is simply to find something about it with my Google skills.

As a long-time and more than satisfied Fastmail customer, my hunch is that they know well what they are doing, are engaging the ā€œmailā€ service provider community, and that JMAP will (or already does) ā€œjust workā€.

Iā€™ve also been using Fastmail for 20+ years and have watched them grow from a little business in Melbourne, Australia to a global heavy-hitter.

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I was irritated by your statement that IMAP ā€žis a bit of a standardā€œ while itā€™s in fact the standard now. JMAP has only just been adopted by IETF and there seems to be exactly one company using it. Which doesnā€™t make it a contender, at least now: Gmail and the other big players all offer IMAP, afaik.
Which doesnā€™t mean that itā€™s perfect. Far from it.

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Renamed to Extensions?

No. And also discussed everywhere on the net. Extensions existed before, as plugins, but Apple removed support for plugins.

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Every cloud has a silver lining. I had no idea one could drag and drop emails into DEVONthink 3. I have always struggled with the plugins. From now on the drag and drop will meet all my needs just as well. Better really. I donā€™t actually save many emails in DEVONthink 3.

Shows it is a good idea to keep an eye on this forum. I understand a lot of folk need to import large numbers of emails and their situation is different.

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Some context:

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2023/06/14/rip-apple-mail-plug-ins/

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Michaelā€™s site is a good one to keep track of all things Mac. While a notional competitor to DTP, EagleFiler serves (in my experience) a small niche in DTPā€™s universes.

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Iā€™ve been using drag and drop to Sorter for email for a long time and it works fine. You can select and drag multiples.

EMail subject becomes the filename.

Anybody know a script I can use to add the EMail date to the filename?

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When you drag/drop, what are the document date and created date of the document set to in DT? If one of them match the ā€œe-mail dateā€, you could set up a smart rule.

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Given how long a subject / name can be, why would you want to add to it in this manner?

And yes, @chrillek is correct that a smart rule could be used for this. However, my question still stands. :slight_smile:

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Hi Bluefrog:

Because there may be several (many) emails with the same Subject, the same To, and the same From, and only the date is different. So when filing them I often use YYMMDD (perhaps Time) as the first word; It isnā€™t very long, and if the rest of the filename goes on and on and on (rarely), itā€™s easy enough to truncate. But adding the date is a bit of a chore.

However, my skill at Smart Rules is limited. A pointer? And will one work with drag and drop?

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Also, re Mail and Sonoma and DT and alternatives. I understand Mozilla Thunderbird is undergoing a (much needed) upgrade. Theyā€™ve always had lots of plug ins and extensions. Does it play nicely with DT?

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Thunderbird does not have good support for inter-application communication, so no it does not play well with others.

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What have you tried?

And yes, you can drag and drop items to a smart rule to apply the actions on an ad-hoc basis.

Experience with Smart Rules is limited to sorting, as in All PDFs, All Images, etc., because DT works so well for me, I donā€™t need to fuss with it much. Iā€™ve read the Smart Rules section in the Manual, and could probably come up with how to add the date before the filename of an email, but eyes glaze over, my laziness argues itā€™s not worth it, top of the To Do List calls, but, of course, the next time I file an email I wish Iā€™d taken the time. Sigh.

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