How to use XMP keywords?

DEVONthink
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Is there a way to use in DTP (for smart groups or rules) the XMP keywords of a file (for instance saved by NeoFinder)?

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This was about writing them but maybe you want to take a look at this thread

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Thank you @pete31!

I had a look at this thread before posting my question but actually I was wondering if there is a way to access the XMP keywords directly, without having to convert them to tags…

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What exactly do you want to do?

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Such wildcards are not supported, you have to specify at least some characters or numbers. E.g. *[a-z0-9]*

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Yes, found that out.

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In case you want to use them in a script

-- Get keywords and "do something"

tell application id "DNtp"
	try
		set theRecords to selection of viewer window 1
		if theRecords = {} then error "Nothing selected."
		
		repeat with thisRecord in theRecords
			set theMetaData to meta data of thisRecord
			set theKeywords to my textItemDelimiters(KMDItemKeywords of theMetaData, "," & linefeed)
			if theKeywords ≠ {} then
				
				-- do something 
				
			end if
		end repeat
		
		
	on error error_message number error_number
		if the error_number is not -128 then display alert "DEVONthink" message error_message as warning
		return
	end try
end tell

on textItemDelimiters(theText, theDelimiter)
	set d to AppleScript's text item delimiters
	set AppleScript's text item delimiters to theDelimiter
	set TextItems to text items of theText
	set AppleScript's text item delimiters to d
	return TextItems
end textItemDelimiters
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I would like to search for all the files in a database with the XMP keyword “Certificate” for instance, or to be able to create a smart group based on this criteria…

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The condition Keywords matches Certificate should be sufficient.

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Sorry, I thought you wanted to access and do something with them :slight_smile:

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For sure I’m doing something wrong, but if you look at the 1st screenshot (NeoFinder), the file has been saved with the keyword “Formation|Attestation de participation”.

Screenshot 2020-09-29 at 20.17.14-2
Screenshot 2020-09-29 at 20.17.14-22176Ă—740 131 KB

However in DTP the same indexed file has no keyword…

Screenshot 2020-09-29 at 20.17.42-2
Screenshot 2020-09-29 at 20.17.42-21916Ă—1042 246 KB

Any clue?

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Does the standard Finder from Apple show these keywords?

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How are you applying XMP metadata to Affinity Designer files?

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@BLUEFROG: while selecting the file in NeoFinder: Item > Metadata > Update metadata

@chrillek: how can I see the keywords in the Finder? I only see the tags while using Get Info…

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Could you please zip such a file and send it to cgrunenberg - at - devon-technologies.com? Thanks in advance!

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See here:
https://www.lifewire.com/use-spotlight-keyword-searches-to-find-files-2260809
I suppose that xmp keywords are not propagated to the finder so that DT might not see them.

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Thanks for your suggestions guys!

They help me understand what’s going on: when it saves keywords for a file other than a jpeg, NeoFinder creates a .XMP “sidecar file” that contains those keywords.

Is there a way to manage these “sidecar files” from DTP?

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Is there an option in NeoFinder to write XMP directly to the files?

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Just send an image plus its XMP file to cgrunenberg - at - devon-technologies.com and I’ll have a look at it.

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You should have received the files Christian.

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