tja
January 20, 2021, 1:44pm
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Now, after I got my Mac Mini M1, I finally also got DEVONthink …
One of the first things I tried, was to index my mounted Cryptomator volume (which resides on OneDrive), which worked fine.
The second thing I tried, was adding a new file to one of those indexed folders.
I expected this to create either a new file that only exist within DT, inbetween the indexed files - or (what I has hoping for) the new file getting created in the actual Cryptomator volume.
This would have been perfect, allowing me to use DT as gateway to an encrypted volume on OneDrive, also circumventing the sad fact that OneDrive is not supported.
But …
But what happened was, that not only DEVONthink crashed, but the whole Mac!
Suspecting a one-time problem, I repeated the same and got the same crash.
Right now, i hesitate to do further tests.
tja
January 20, 2021, 1:44pm
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What I originally wanted to test is this:
Create a new file with DT within indexed folders
Create a new file with Finder within the original Cryptomator folder
Modify a file with DT within indexed folders
Modify a file with Finder within the original Cryptomator folder
tja
January 20, 2021, 2:08pm
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I can add more detail:
I also tried to modify a file from within DT …
And the Mac crashed again:
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffe001b89019c): "Invalid mutex 0xfffffe23343ace30"
Debugger message: panic
Memory ID: 0xff
OS release type: User
OS version: 20C69
Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 20.2.0: Wed Dec 2 20:40:21 PST 2020; root:xnu-7195.60.75~1/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101
Fileset Kernelcache UUID: 3E6AA74DF723BCB886499A5AAB34FA34
Kernel UUID: 48F71DB3-6C91-3E62-9576-3A1DCEF2B536
iBoot version: iBoot-6723.61.3
secure boot?: YES
Paniclog version: 13
KernelCache slide: 0x0000000013b24000
KernelCache base: 0xfffffe001ab28000
Kernel slide: 0x0000000014664000
Kernel text base: 0xfffffe001b668000
Kernel text exec base: 0xfffffe001b730000
mach_absolute_time: 0x1580babcf5
Epoch Time: sec usec
Boot : 0x6008299d 0x000c2c5e
Sleep : 0x00000000 0x00000000
Wake : 0x00000000 0x00000000
Calendar: 0x6008389e 0x000916f7
CORE 0 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b899798
CORE 1 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac5c
CORE 2 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac5c
CORE 3 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac5c
CORE 4 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac60
CORE 5 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac60
CORE 6 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac60
CORE 7 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe001b89ac60
Panicked task 0xfffffe167fc84c70: 3788 pages, 7 threads: pid 1104: TextEdit
Panicked thread: 0xfffffe166e22dfb8, backtrace: 0xfffffe308a5d3160, tid: 26871
lr: 0xfffffe001b77df8c fp: 0xfffffe308a5d31d0
lr: 0xfffffe001b77dd58 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3240
lr: 0xfffffe001b89ff5c fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3260
lr: 0xfffffe001b891914 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3310
lr: 0xfffffe001b7377e8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3320
lr: 0xfffffe001b77d9e8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d36b0
lr: 0xfffffe001b77d9e8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3720
lr: 0xfffffe001bf183f8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3740
lr: 0xfffffe001b89019c fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3760
lr: 0xfffffe001e5ef0f4 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3830
lr: 0xfffffe001b9f76d0 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3b60
lr: 0xfffffe001b9dd5cc fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3db0
lr: 0xfffffe001bd7a5a8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3e40
lr: 0xfffffe001b8915f8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3ef0
lr: 0xfffffe001b7377e8 fp: 0xfffffe308a5d3f00
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.filesystems.webdav(3.0.1)[A70AF71E-4633-3BB8-B9A4-4A8F106AB7D1]@0xfffffe001e5ec000->0xfffffe001e5f3fff
last started kext at 3592959561: com.apple.filesystems.webdav 3.0.1 (addr 0xfffffe001b664000, size 16384)
last stopped kext at 5190091113: com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBHostPacketFilter 1.0 (addr 0xfffffe001b4d4000, size 16384)
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** Stackshot Succeeded ** Bytes Traced 289453 (Uncompressed 712320) **
Panicked task 0xfffffe167fc84c70: 3788 pages, 7 threads: pid 1104: TextEditThe kernel panic was caused by TextEdit but I doubt that TextEdit is actually the culprit. It’s more likely that it’s a bug of macOS (especially its WebDAV support according to the log) or Cryptomator.
tja
January 20, 2021, 3:34pm
5
I forwarded all 3 crash logs to Apple.
And no, TextEdit cannot cause a kernel crash
I would test it first without dropbox (using a Cryptomator volume with local files). If it still happens try a OneDrive folder without Cryptomator. This way you will know which application is causing this.
I have never had kernel panics when indexing files from OneDrive in the past (or other file-services for that matter), but haven’t use OneDrive for a long time now. OneDrive may still be based on WebDav, so it may be WebDav related.
Why does a webdav filesystem kext even come into play here? OneDrive doesn’t offer webdav access, afaik. … Ah, just a little googling around: There were in November last known problems with Cryptomator and Big Sur. They should be solved by Cryptomator 1.5.11, which should be used with a recent incantation of FUSE (4.0.4 is mentioned). It seems that you do not have this setup, since the webdav filesystem should only be the fallback if FUSE is not available.
opened 07:32PM - 20 Nov 20 UTC
closed 07:03AM - 28 Apr 21 UTC
type:upstream-bug
os:mac
mount:webdav
state:has-workaround
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### Description
When a vault is mounted and I try to rename any folder inside of it, computer freezes and in few seconds crashes and restarts. It produced no logs in debug mode.
### System Setup
* Operating system and version: macOS Big Sur 11.0.1
* Cryptomator version: 1.5.10
* Volume type: WebDAV
### Steps to Reproduce
1. Open a vault
2. Rename a folder
#### Expected Behavior
Folder is renamed
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Computer crashes
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Always
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Tried to unmount a vault and now Finder doesn't work. Previously it was fine.
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on github concerning crashes with Cryptomator and WebDAV on Mac Silicon.
So maybe, just maybe, the problem is not DT.
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tja
January 20, 2021, 6:21pm
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No, it is quite clear that this is from Cryptomator, as this seems to use WebDav to offer the unencrypted content which then get’s accessed by DT.
But it is surely not Cryptomator alone or itself, as I can use the volume quite normally without any problem!
It is something between DT and the WebDav Volume of Cryptomator and this run into some problem with the WebDav kernel extensions as it seems.
So the bug is most probably in macOS, but it is triggered somehow by DT accessing the Volume from Cryptomator.
And this is, why I was posting it here.
tja
January 20, 2021, 6:24pm
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Ah, very interesing!
As i suspected, the bug in the kernel extension get’s somehow triggered by DT accessing the Cryptomator volume.
I did not have similar problems with Cryptomator itself or by using it’s volume.
I had this problem when creating or modifying a file, not as mentioned in the link.
I still fear, that only Apple can fix this.
tja
January 20, 2021, 6:37pm
10
I did a new test:
Changing a file in Cryptomator, without going over DT, also did crash the Mac!
I did not experience this so far, but then it may be because i used this on Windows ther last time I did change a file!
So, my assumption that Cryptomator itself and alone does work, was wrong! I think i had mistaken this with my last use from my Windows PC.
So, only either Cryptomator or Apple are to be blamed and DT is innocent.
Very good
Ah ok, did not know Cryptomator uses Webdav. I use Boxcryptor, I do not have these issues with it.
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OneDrive still seems to work with WebDav, but this probably will not be used for syncing.https://webdav.io/onedrive-webdav-url/
Let me know if you manage to get WebDAV to work with OneDrive on your Mac WebDAV.io is a … let’s say not very good site. The so called description starts with
Visit the One Drive Developer center and Create New App
and it ends there, because I have no “One Drive Developer center” where I could create a new app. Even after locating it on the web, the whole exercise is far too convoluted (or would be, if it worked. Which I doubt). WebDAV.io is badly made and just wants to market their WebDAV server in Colombia.
I agree, the sources are not the best.
If and how it would work on MacOS I do not know, but I’m willing to try. If it works I would not rely on it for using it with DT…
I’m not using Windows, but I very much doubt that they use WebDAV internally for their commercial products like sharepoint. From their own website:
Bei der Zuordnung eines Netzlaufwerks wird WebDAV verwendet, eine ältere Technologie, die langsamer und weniger zuverlässig ist als das Synchronisieren von SharePoint-Dateien mit dem neuen OneDrive-synchronisierungsclient.Zuordnung und Synchronisierung von Netzlaufwerken, die mit SharePoint Online verbunden sind - SharePoint | Microsoft Learn )
WebDAV is ok’ish if you want to have a Finder/Explorer view or for CalDAV/CardDAV (small amounts of data), but there are certainly more performant alternatives, e.g. NFS.
WebDAV is not as slow as people might assume after using it in the Finder, e.g. cleaning a WebDAV sync store in DEVONthink is usually a fast operation. Doing the same in the Finder can last for minutes or even hours (depending on the server and the sync store).
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There is also a difference in the MS365 and Personal OneDrive. So I’m not sure where WebDav is in the picture. It is still being used if you open the Explorer view in Windows from a SharePoint document library… but we are getting off-topic
I agree, I use a WebDav server for syncing my databases and this is very fast.
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tja
January 24, 2021, 3:16pm
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Someone from the Cryptomator community contacted Apple about that bug.
tja
January 24, 2021, 3:20pm
20
But DT seems to prefer WebDav.
But what I noticed is, that by default, Cryptomator creates “Docany” not “WebDav” storage, which confuses me.
Seriously: WinSCP is a Windows program, and