Crazy suggestion: accept links in search boxes

It may sound a bit crazy, but I think that it would be useful if search interfaces (Search, Move, Go to Group, Copy to, etc) also accepted links.
thank you

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Yes, that sounds very crazy :stuck_out_tongue::wink:

So are you suggesting being able to paste a link into say the Move To popover?

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yes. thank you

Youā€™re welcome :slight_smile:
No promises but the request is noted. Itā€™s definitely the first I can recall.

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Iā€™m really tired, so please bear with meā€¦

Why? Could you give me an example of a work flow?

Iā€™m reasonably technically ignorant at this level; I appear to have filed ā€œparsing linksā€ in the ā€œpossible risky behaviourā€ section of my brain. I seem to have come across unsafe parsing (executing code etc.) as an explanation for how unauthorised access to something was gained a few times too often. That is a 100-percent weasel statement, of course. I think Iā€™m saying ā€œjust be carefulā€ or something :see_no_evil:

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Mumbles something about log4j

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two highly sophisticated forum members @BLUEFROG and @Blanc have strong reservations about my suggestion, so I am probably wrong.

That being said, my reasoning is the following

  • with a link, I get direct / instantaneous access to a unique group or subgroup if I want to go to, copy to or move to. I can combine a name search in typinator with the link as expansion to quickly insert the link to group or subgroup in question.
  • the root of my issue is the following. When I go to, move to, copy to, I would like the search to generate one or at least a short list of groups / subgroups which contains the search word or string which is exactly what a similar search in typinator would yield. With DevonThink, for some reason, I often end up with a very long list of results many of which are completely irrelevant, and I often end up having to search through a long list of results to find the target group.

@Blanc - sorry, I donā€™t understand how my DevonThink Item Links are a security issue if they fall in the hands of an outsider.

Dear @rufus123, no. I may be a vocal user of this forum, but that doesnā€™t make my opinions or reservations more or less important than yours, or any other usersā€™. I would be saddened if DEVONtech placed more weight on my suggestions than on anybody elseā€™s. Doing so would destroy an enormous base of knowledge and input. Different uses, workflows and preferences require different options; it is very much for DT to decide what is practicable, safe and useful to a range of users. Please do not stop making suggestions.

Thank you for explaining your workflow; I feel thatā€™s always especially helpful when a new feature is to be considered.

My concern was not that your DT item links might fall into the wrong hands. It was along rather more general lines, something like ā€œif an app cannot parse links, then nobody can make it parse a malicious link; if an app can parse links, thatā€™s one step towards being able to gain malicious accessā€. Thatā€™s a Swiss cheese model approach to security - the more levels you have, the less likely security will ever be compromised. Again, my knowledge more or less ends there; the horse may already be ranging freely, because DT has a browser integrated and can be controlled by script. It even has full disk access. All I was saying was ā€œok, this may not be quite a easy/innocent to implement as it might appear at first glanceā€; then again, it might well be. Iā€™m sure itā€™s perfectly possible to mitigate any associated concerns.

I wish I better understood how all this stuff works. In my next lifeā€¦

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thanks for a very interesting comment.

how do you call in DevonThink lingo the search interface that appears when you click go to, move to, copy to etc. I would like to use the correct term. thank you

From page 110 of the the user guide (also available through the in-app Help):

Move to: This popover allows you to organize selected files quickly. Open this popover via Data > Move To or pressing āŒƒāŒ˜M.

Go to Document: This popover allows you to quickly navigate to a specific file. Open this popover via Go > To Document or āŒƒāŒ˜O.

Stephen

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thank you. Are you familiar with apple scripting for DevonThink ? Are you comfortable reading/editing scripts ?

I would by no means offer myself as an AppleScript expert. There are others here very much more competent than I am.

Stephen

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I hope none of this discussion dissuades you from making future suggestions. Itā€™s a definite No if you donā€™t ask :slight_smile:

Whatā€™s your question regarding scripts?

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Well, you didnā€™t reply to my initial question which perhaps irritated you. If itā€™s the case, all OK.

I am working on a alternative way to move items in DevonThink using typinator in addition to DevonThink

My script question concerns the script in the link below.

The script generates a huge list which is a dizzying mishmash of name + links of trash, tags, groups, subgroups and docs.

To implement my typinator strategy I would need to modify the script listing of only Groups and SubGroups names and Links.
If possible, subgoups start with a tab under the group name.
I donā€™t want to include listing of tabs, documents.

I just canā€™t figure out what to edit in the script.

thank you

+1 for me! On more than a few occasions Iā€™ve pasted an item link into the search field out of muscle memory, to no avail.

I use Hook, and I frequently invoke the Hook interface for copying application-specific URLs and pasting them into the other documents I work on. So itā€™s not uncommon for me to end up with DEVONthink URLs in my clipboard. To me, the URL just feels like a link to the document, so I unthinkingly paste it anywhere that I want to link to the document.

Not irritated at all.

using typinator in addition to DevonThink

Using Typinator how?

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Yes, I, too, am interested in this because Iā€™m a devoted user of Typinator but didnā€™t initially understand the section Iā€™ve quoted from @rufus123. However, I think I have understood now. If Iā€™m correct, part of what @rufus123 wants to see when carrying out a DT search is some sort of hlghlighting (maybe in the sidebar) of the groups that contain the displayed search resultsā€”as well as that list of results. That, in any event, is roughly what Typinator does when you search for an expansion.

Edit: Sorry to @rufus123 if Iā€™ve got this completely wrong.

Stephen

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@rufus123 : Is this the case? If so, where would you expect highlighted items to be found - in the Navigate sidebar?

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I have been struggling to capture the Typinator window but have now done so and post the screenshot in case itā€™s any help to @rufus123 in explaining what he needs:

Stephen

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