Do you really mean a “hub” here that sits between you and the NAS in your LAN? In this case, I think you don’t have a chance at all to tell it to not forward IP packets destined to an external address to the router. If with “hub” you mean a switch, it might be possible – but I doubt that it’s worth the effort. Your router will certainly not send out any packets destined to its own external IP address but just take care of the portforwarding.
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Yes. The sync is VERY fast, both inside my home and outside using the internet.
I also like the fact that I’m in control, none of my data goes to a third party service provider like Dropbox or Apple.
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It’s funny you picked up on that, I struggled to find the correct name for the device. It is currently a BT device, which they call a hub.
My intention is to go back to ddwrt and take control that way. It can be configured the way I’d prefer with packets destined for itself not be sent out to the internet. I had it working that way before but lost the capability when I “upgraded” my equipment. LOL
Boring Technology? Sorry, but what does it do? Does it connect you to the internet? If so, why do you think it would sent out packets destined to itself?
Did you try the traceroute command I mentioned with your current equipment?
Just forget it pal. It’s not important, it works well enough. I don’t see your traceroute post btw.
Sorry:
traceroute -nI <ipaddress/hostname>
I apparently deleted that part involuntarily. In my case, I see
traceroute to 46.88.78.xxx (46.88.78.xxx), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.44.1 3.239 ms 2.564 ms 2.089 ms
2 46.88.78.xxx 2.662 ms 2.297 ms 2.566 ms
192.168.44.1 is the internal address of my router, 46.88.78.xxx is the external one. So there are not packets going out.
I wonder why is DT continuously showing “iCloud Upload” (at least in my case as explained above) if there is actually nothing new to upload? That is what I do not understand. This does not happen with e.g. Dropbox.
Apart from that I am with you and fully understand this is not in the hands of Devonthink …
Are you sure that the database(s) were not modified since the last sync? Not even by automatic scripts or smart rules or feeds?
While I saw that with 3.5.x, it seems to have disappeared with 3.6.1 (at least here).
I am relatively confident - i do have very few smart rules working with DB using iCloud. In fact I tested this multiple times, basically waiting a couple of minutes w/o changing anything in DB and DT would start this endless “iCloud Upload again” showing > “100 items” … Not that this somehow impacts the work of the application on my end - it is just a bit strange and probably creates (unnecessary?) CPU cycles.
Is there any way to see what exactly is being uploaded by the software? Any special debug mode?
In fact, I would add, from user’s perspective, it would be great to be able to see which files DT is trying to upload right now in the logs window. I think, this would reduce all this questions then… At the moment is it just “iCloud Upload 291 items”. I am super confident I did not create 219 new items (or less if they are just chunks) in the last few minutes here.
The number of items show by the sync while uploading/downloading is usually not comparable to database items. E.g. a huge file might be uploaded as lots of small items, multiple small items might be uploaded as one item etc. Is anything logged to Windows > Log?
Understood re chunking. In general it would be helpful it DT3 would be telling (comparable to DTTG) what exactly is being uploaded / downloaded. Is this possible by any means today?
Log do not show anything.
Okay, there’s definitely a lot I don’t understand, but as a consumer I really just want sync to work. I get that it’s annoying to hear this over and over again as a developer. I’ve seen posts about this for a while.
I get that it’s more complicated than it appears, and that Devonthink syncs more items than other apps, but I’ve had Devonthink struggle with a small number of updates as described here. I just wonder if there are some ingenious ways to create a more usable app? Would this require moving to some type of cloud computing model? I love Devonthink so much I’d be willing to pay a subscription if it worked seamlessly (gasp!).
I consider the experience in apps dropbox just a basic expectation now. I can look through all my items, huge files, and download when I need an item or only sync those files I want synced. I don’t need to resync my files on my iOS device ever. I just open, browse and sync and download. It’s crazy to me that syncing in DTGO requires this much troubleshooting on the end user side. Again, I don’t know what I’m talking about but this is the user experience I’d love.
I assure you no one at DEVONtech said anything was “annoying”.
just wonder if there are some ingenious ways to create a more usable app?
The issue is isolated and sporadic. It is certainly working as expected for the majority of our clientele. all we can do at this point is continue to gather data when it comes in and follow any paths it leads us down.
Would this require moving to some type of cloud computing model?
This is not in concert with our basic philosophy of using a decentralized data model. DEVONthink runs locally and can sync to a commonly accessible location, and that is as intended.
Also, having a cloud presence brings many more liabilities for us as a company, not including increased development and support. It would require 24/7 administration, legal concerns over privacy/security, etc.
I consider the experience in apps dropbox just a basic expectation now
That expectation is simple in basic applications that are merely using a local Dropbox folder to copy single files. That is not what our sync engine is doing. Additionally, people use DEVONthink in far more taxing ways than most other applications using a remote sync. So no, you are not talking about the same mechanisms.
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I have been observing this for the last week or so: i consistency (i.e. all the time my mac is running) see something like that:
In a couple of cases DT process war spinning up the CPU so that I needed to exit the software.
I did reset iCloud (by deleting everything on IOS, in the iCloud and re-configuring everything form scratch).
TL;DR: this does not work unfortunately as designed for me.
I am considering to switch to Bonjour sync which I never used before with DT. Is there any downside in using Bonjour to iCloud? I need to sync my Mac with primarily iPhone where I do a lot of clippings on the go.
DEVONthink has to be running on both the server (usually the Mac) and the client (another Mac or an iPhone/iPad) and both have to be in the same network. Apart from that Bonjour is a lot faster.
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About to get a synology and looking for setup recommendation. Any recommended site to read up before buying?
See https://www.synology.com/en-uk/support/documentation?query=&type=All§ion=All&p=1 for lots of good stuff.
Thanks. It was a super easy re-configuration. So far it is working reliably for me after both Dropbox and iCloud failed on me. I will update the threads should there be any new discoveries.
TL;DR: if you do not need iCloud/Dropbox sync, based on my experience I would recommend users to go for local/Bonjour sync.
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