DTTG 3.0 features

Wish I knew what 3.0 has in store…

Guess I’ll have to wait till after the holidays.

Wish it would come before the holidays. Perfect times to work on my system.

Yes, but then their support staff would have to work over the holidays or else customers would have to go without support over the holidays.

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hopefully they get rid of the size limits…
I switched over from Evernote and can’t use DTTG alternatively because of the limitation :-/

It’s not a matter of “getting rid of the size limits”. Formatted notes contain embedded base64 data, not links. Unless the resources are an appropriate size - and for images they often aren’t - the files will be much larger than would be normally feasible in a web browser (which utilizes links). In iOS this causes the memory consumption to quickly swell beyond a reasonable amount.

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I don‘t mind, because other vendors handle it on iOS
Client from Evernote is doing fine…
Client from Nimbus is doing fine too

So I wish DTTG can handle it too in v3

Evernote is not using embedded data. It is a web view using links and hosts data on its server.
Nimbus appears to be providing the same type of functionality.

These are not apples-to-apples comparisons.

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There are apps that can handle larger formatted notes, without hosting data on any server that is fetched when the document is active. I have a formatted note, created in DEVONthink 3 macOS, that is 29mb due to image size. It won’t display in DEVONthink to Go, (apparently it is almost 3x the size that DEVONthink to Go supports) but works fine with a different app. Hopefully something can be done to raise the limits on formatted note sizes with DEVONthink to Go.

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What application would that be?

Keep It and Notebooks 10.

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Interesting.
Are you accessing the formatted note in DEVONthink To Go via Files.app?

No, not using Files.app. And I stand corrected on one point, the document was created in DEVONthink to Go, not DEVONthink macOS. Here’s where I first reported this, same document, 11 months ago. Document too large?

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So, is this dead once again?

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Is what dead ?

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Seriously? You asked me the same question nearly a year ago. I gave you an answer and that was the end of it. Now it comes up again from another user and you try to diffuse it by saying it’s not apples to apples. I again point out that, in an apples to apples comparison, there are other apps that can do this. And your response is to ignore me.

I just don’t get it-you can like a post from one user that some might consider insulting or gaslighting, (and I would have though previous events from this fall would have informed your thinking about liking controversial social media topics) but you choose to ignore me?

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You could simply answer « these apps manage to circumvent the size limitation, how come DTTG doesn’t? » instead of getting angry. Your original question is frankly not entirely clear.

I am however wondering the same thing, @bluefrog :slightly_smiling_face:

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I have not “chosen to ignore you”. I asked questions to gather information about what applications behave differently. I’m not sure what more you’d expect me say as I certainly can’t say “Since those other apps seem to work, of course we’ll have that fixed up right away.” I don’t speak for or set priorities for Development. I gather info inform them. They are aware of the situation. That’s all.

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It seems that DT on the desktop and DTTG behave entirely different when one creates a formatted note with an image. I tried with one of my own photos, about 6 MB originally.

  • Created a note in DT (desktop) with just this photo: 393 KB
  • Create a note in DTTG (mobile) with just this photo: 54 MB

First, even for base 64 encoding, 54 MB is at least an order of magnitude too large (Wikipedia talks about 37% size increase by base 64, that’d mean about 8 MB) Second, DT on the desktop seems to scale the image down. Otherwise, it couldn’t squeeze a 6 MB image into a 393 KB note.
I tried opening it in Safari on the iPhone - no success (no error either, it just didn’t load). But, lo and behold, KeepIt did open and display it. Amazing, given that they should be using the same Webkit engine as Safari. Or do they do something behind the scenes with the HTML?
Apparently, DTTG does something weird and different from DT/desktop. Whereas the latter does also something … interesting. I didn’t find any hint in the documentation about downsizing images in formatted notes (but didn’t look thoroughly - I just noticed the warning about images getting bigger when embedding them in notes).
So a workaround might be to create those notes on the desktop. And keep the conversation light and polite.
The “apples to apples” remark still holds: If you create a note in KeepIt on the desktop, it saves it as a folder containing the HTML and the image. So the HTML just uses a link to the image, which of course requires less space then embedding the image itself as base 64 encoded string into the HTML.

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At this moment I do not use DTTG for content creation. I would like to see ‘better’ ways to create rich-content in DTTG.

Camera’s are producing large high quality pictures. Scaling the images on insertion would be a nice feature to get in future updates. I do use a Shortcut to resize an image and copy it to the clipboard. Unfortunately you can only insert images in DEVONthink from the photo library and are unable to past from the clipboard as far as I could figure out.

Most of the time I create a Note in, for example, Bear and export that as PDF to DEVONthink for future reference.

  • Created a note in DT (desktop) with just this photo: 393 KB
  • Create a note in DTTG (mobile) with just this photo: 54 MB

Was this a photo taken with the iOS device?